They’ve done it again.  A great piece of downtown real estate has been transformed into a dark and depressing space.  We recently visited the newly opened Sam Bucca’s Pizza Pub (formerly Max’s, formerly Carmella’s Trattoria) and what a disappointment.  DowntownAfterDark’s signature is all over this one too.  From the giant signs advertising cheap beer on the outside, to the catchy new name, to the not so well thought out interior space.  This crew really knows how to kill an enjoyable nightspot when they get the chance.

Before my visit to Sam Bucca’s, I started out my evening at Scott’s Grille with a group of people for after-work drinks.  Scott’s has been around for a long time and used to be a great “pre-game” spot before going to the Vault nightclub (yeah, that’s a long time).  The bar and deck area outside Scott’s is always popular for happy hour.  While their menu has ranged from good to average over the years, it has remained consistent enough to continue attracting patrons night after night.

Later, the party changed direction and we ended up down the street at Bourbon Street Saloon.  While sipping my $2 Blue Moon draft, I remembered this space from a while back…

A Bit of History

Bourbon Street Saloon originally was home to Dewey’s Dry Dock in the late 1990s.  After Dewey’s closed, the owners sold it and it became 5:01 Downtown - a small, but clean bar/nightclub/seafood restaurant that was one of the first before the big 2nd Street explosion.  A lower level held a small dance floor to fill the void after the Vault had closed in 2001.  5:01 was also one of the first places downtown to institute a dress code at night similar to Level 2. They tried to keep it classy and keep the riffraff out.

Once the Vault was remodeled into the Hardware Bar/Eclipse there was no need for a second dance floor on the same street so they changed gears and tried comedy shows and poker tournaments in the basement. When that formula was no longer working, it  changed and became Bourbon Street Station before going with the “Saloon” theme.  The kitchen from 5:01 was removed to make room for the beer pong tables. Now that beer sales, not food, is the focus, this could be one of the few bars that will allow smoking after the ban next month, but that’s another story.

A block away, Max’s was the first shiny new restaurant to take up space at the newly constructed office tower known as Market Square Plaza in 2005.  Right off the main crossroads of downtown, this Italian restaurant had high hopes and was in a prime location.  Only problem was the food didn’t live up to the expectations of this urban centerpiece.

When Max’s started to lose money, they rebranded it Carmella’s Trattoria, another Italian restaurant.  At the time we already had a few good places to get Italian style food downtown anyway, so why change a good thing?  Fast forward a few months and they stopped serving lunch because of the slow crowds.  With the number of business people downtown every weekday, a simple lunch in a clean restaurant should be a no brainer (especially with several floors of government employees right above you).

Nope, it couldn’t survive much longer, time to call in the “cleaner” for help…

From Stylish Restaurant to Gritty Sports Pub

So what did Carmella’s do?  They brought in DowntownAfterDark to perform their standard gut and paint job we’ve seen before at places like Mars, Tom Sawyer, and the Hardware Bar.  The high backed restaurant booths were moved to the ceiling-high glass walls which overlook the sidewalk. The view of Market Square is now completely blocked from the rest of the restaurant. The original space from the booths made room for a bocce court (ok, original, I’ll give them that), but the rest was filled with old coin-op pool tables, some old retro arcade games, and more flat screens. Someone commented it looked more like an 80s-style roller skating rink than a “pizza pub”.

This is your typical warehouse-style sports bar created to attract people before they turn the corner for the Gingerbread Man or Kokomos now open on Market St. The decor showcases every popular Italian mob movie ever made.  The main dining area is pushed to the back and covered with hideous tablecloths.  With the small menu I don’t think food is the focus here anymore. This could be a possible attempt to remain exempt from the smoking ban.

I don’t recommend anyone waste their time in this place except to witness a great downtown space ruined once again.

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8 Responses to “Sam Bucca’s”

You’re right Max’s/Carmella’s never worked because the food did not match the atmosphere or the price. Its a shame they decided to bring the atmosphere down rather than bring the food up. Also, I think that the really dark tinted windows in front are a bad idea, especially because the restaurant does not have a direct street entrance.

Terribly disappointing, you summed this place up perfectly - more of the same downtown after dark. Which is fine I suppose for that crowd, but I think we have plenty of those bars already, this place probably has the best location on 2nd and it has been a sore let down as far back as I can remember. Which, by the way, is not half as far back as you ! Fascinating history though, I didn’t know about the evolution of bourbon street saloon at all.

LOW….CLASS

So, where does one go anymore? I’ve been out of the scene for about a year. I have a friend coming in from out of town and cannot with a straight face suggest taking him downtown. It’s a shame.

Again, looking for someone or some group that can come in with a fresh vision for downtown that is fun, lively, and includes good food, good drinks, and a variety that meets all desires. As always, Stallions is the last bastion of uniqueness.

H

@Heather

SUBA! SUBA! SUBA! SUBA!

I and my wife moved to this area six years ago, in the beginning of our time here we would eat out more than we wanted. As time went on and we were settling in to our new surroundings we found some places that were good but never to find any place that we could agree, that was to our standard. Each establishment we would visit we would seem to notice something was out of place, from a dirty washroom to the food that taste as if it was cooked in a microwave (frozen).

I walked out to my front door today retrieving my weekly Sunday paper, in which was a article about “Sam Bucca’s”. I thought, why not, we’re going to the see the fireworks, let’s try this place(I should have read this site first).

This will be for sure one place I will not return to. From the start we did not feel a comforting welcome from the girl who met us at the door, as we were being seated we were told there would be a 40 minute wait for our order due to the crowd that was present, yet it didn’t seem so crowded to us. Let me get to the meat of this story, as we placed the order we were told of the things they did not have available… mind you, these are the parts needed to complete your menu. The menu said “brick oven pizza” yet not told this by the girl taking the order. Come to find out later, by the manager, they do not have “brick” or stone oven pizza. Yet, when you read the menu, it states “brick oven” pizza. So I did a little investigating on my own to find that the pizza made and sold by Sam Bucca’s Pizza Pub was rolled though the same machine used by “pizza hut” and “domino’s”. Then when I inquired with the “manager”, not only was she unable to give us a knowledgeable answer but didn’t know what or how the pizza was made, her rudeness was such to the level of yelling at my wife and I. Now I ask you, is that what you expect from such an eatery?

I’m with Tom! Dude, downtown has left me wondering. Sam Bucca’s seems like a waste. Seriously, I’m hoping 3rd Street becomes a new destination. I’ve grown tired of the 2ND street nightlife, smoke, fake women who’ve watched way too many Sex and The City Reruns, racism,(if you’re black and downtown…sheesh! Fugghedaboutit)posers in Hollister shirts, frat bars…

I get bad service every single time I go out. (EXCEPT AT CAFE FRESCO. IT’S THE BEST PLACE ON THE ROW!)

I like the changes but some just do not fit. Sam Bucca’s, my wait for slimy, thin crust pizza was…Well, the waitress saw my friend and I didn’t smile, was uninviting (as are most of the waitresses obsessed with thier own physical beauty)and never came back to our table. This happened to me at KOKOMO’S too.(sucks because I like their food and atmosphere).

I’m thinking it is the area, the people in the burg I love, and some individuals fear toward diversity that has caused the uprooting our dissolving of establishments trying to lure those adept with class and elegance. Pretty soon Second Street will look like a Republican party on steroids. But I’m chillin wit da dems, awaiting the booming art scene to evolve. Good luck!

Here’s the thing that Downtown After Dark has to realize…. What the fuck does Pizza have to do with having a good time on a Friday or Saturday Night? What is the obsession with pool. Do they have to have a pool table in every establishment that they own. I just cant believe what they have done to the old Max location. It’s just disgusting!! This is yet another example of money falling into the hands of the wrong people (Hillbillies)and those people not having a clue what to do with it. I can never understand why they want every single bar and nightclub to look like a College hang out and Frat house. Do the owners of these places have a thing for young girls or something?

I actually had the chance to meet one of the Principles in Downtown after dark many years ago. The one thing that bothered me was his age. How the Hell can a business man of his age be satisfied with that quality product. How can any business man be happy owning those type of places? Is the money soooo good that you turn your head the other way? If so, how can you sleep at night? Where is the love for the industry? Where is the creativity? Sooner or later we all have to grow up people.

People like this are one of the resons why people like me will never do business in a town like Harrisburg/York. The DowntownAfterdark people have brain washed our patrons into believing their way is the right way. Excuse me….”The white trash way” And it’s just not right.

Do these people have an ounce of class in them?

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